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TheMindfulOne
| Subject: Re: NBA '13-14 Season Discussion Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:35 am | |
| From Marc Stein's column today: "You hear similar tales of awe from those who were with Diaw in Atlanta too. [...] The capper comes from Cleveland Cavaliers general manager David Griffin, who, like Quinter, was an integral part of the Suns' front-office team when Diaw was acquired in a sign-and-trade for Joe Johnson orchestrated by then-Suns personnel chief Bryan Colangelo. 'Boris walks into the gym one day wearing flip-flops and holding his customary cappuccino, which was a staple for him every morning,' Griffin recalled. 'It was during pre-draft workouts, so he sees the Vertec [machine] and asks what it is. 'We tell him it measures your vertical leap by determining how many of the bars you can touch. He asks what's the highest anyone has ever gone, and we tell him Amare' [Stoudemire] cleared the entire rack. 'Boris puts down the cappuccino, takes off his flip-flops and clears the entire rack on the first try. Then he calmly puts his flip-flops back on, picks up his cappuccino and walks away, saying, 'That was not difficult.''" |
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TheMindfulOne
| Subject: Re: NBA '13-14 Season Discussion Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:05 am | |
| Patty Mills is AMAZINGLY efficient, 11ppg in 8mp in the Finals, 11ppg in 19mpg in Reg. Season...
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Bryan
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Nibblesfly
| Subject: Re: NBA '13-14 Season Discussion Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:47 am | |
| RIP Heat Big 3 Era
DWade should retire or take very little money going forward. They babied him this year, they played nobody in the playoffs until the Finals and he still couldn't make it. I'm incredibly inspired by San Antonio. I didn't think they had it in them. |
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Bryan
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Nibblesfly
| Subject: Re: NBA '13-14 Season Discussion Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:14 am | |
| Leroy is sticking to his guns regarding Kawhi Leonard :thibs:
inb4 his 87 ovr rating on 2k15. Kawhi doesn't have the star factor that Paul George had. No fake gold chains, no catfishing, no banging other players significant others etc. I'm definitely celebrating the Heat losing. Fuck them tbh. They were such a cocky bunch. Always front running. They had a successful run with two titles and four Finals appearances but its time to move on. Pat Riley has his work cut out.
This is a good day in the NBA imo |
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Jesus Swagglesworth
LeoVuittonDon
| Subject: Re: NBA '13-14 Season Discussion Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:25 am | |
| RIP NBA
35 3pt attempts = title
Scrub that can't dribble = MVP
Hey at least they called him for traveling 3 times out the 40 times he did it today. Justice was served tonight imo |
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TheMindfulOne
| Subject: Re: NBA '13-14 Season Discussion Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:28 am | |
| The spurs brought bball at its best leroy this is amazing, kawhi deserved it, 18 and 8 with 61% fg and 60% 3p?! Lbj numbers on a good team, lbj on a bad team 10 more ppg and more apg... |
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Jesus Swagglesworth
LeoVuittonDon
| Subject: Re: NBA '13-14 Season Discussion Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:08 pm | |
| Funny how spurs (of all teams) killed basketball. No "bball at it's best" was played in the series, it just a massive chuckfest from about 4 or 5 of their players. Now every other chucker in the league has their play style justified & will continue to do it, probably do it even more now
lol @ comparing kawhi to Lebron. Maybe if Lebron didn't know how to to do most simple thing in basketball (dribble), these comparisons could've been justified |
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TheMindfulOne
| Subject: Re: NBA '13-14 Season Discussion Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:34 pm | |
| ^^ It's another thing to chuck at pg position like Steph or Dame and it's another thing of moving the ball and taking open shots... |
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Jesus Swagglesworth
LeoVuittonDon
| Subject: Re: NBA '13-14 Season Discussion Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:06 pm | |
| Spurs didn't take an open shot after game 2 or3
The ball movement was a myth |
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TheMindfulOne
| Subject: Re: NBA '13-14 Season Discussion Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:23 pm | |
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Bryan
Lorde NHL TU DD Leroy
Nibblesfly
| Subject: Re: NBA '13-14 Season Discussion Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:42 am | |
| I'm a little uncomfortable with this "Spurs are one of the best teams ever" narrative I've been hearing today. We need to pump the breaks a little bit on that. Miami isn't very good ffs. Wizards could have seriously beat them. Horrible matchup for the Heat.
The Spurs were the best team and deserved to win but the best team ever wouldn't need 7 games to beat the 2013-14 Dallas Mavericks. |
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Jesus Swagglesworth
LeoVuittonDon
| Subject: Re: NBA '13-14 Season Discussion Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:06 am | |
| Wiz coulda beat them both
Spurs were unstoppable cause of the nonstop barrage of chucking. That didn't even come close to happening in the mavs series
Lebron ended with like 30/8/4 on like 60% and still managed to get his ass whooped. That's pure luck. Spurs should've still won of course, but an asskicking of this magnitude was 100% luck |
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TheMindfulOne
| Subject: Re: NBA '13-14 Season Discussion Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:54 am | |
| Wiz couldn't beat them both because they lost to fuckin Indy...
Luck? No luck in sports/life period... |
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Jesus Swagglesworth
LeoVuittonDon
| Subject: Re: NBA '13-14 Season Discussion Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:51 am | |
| ^ that's ridiculous
Chris bosh went 2/10,000 on 3pt on attempts these playoffs, with the 2 makes being banked off the glass. That's not luck? That's skill to you?
Luck is very real. Both bad luck and good luck. Nothing ever happens for a reason, it's all just luck |
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TheMindfulOne
| Subject: Re: NBA '13-14 Season Discussion Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:10 am | |
| It's called practice, if you aren't in rythim you miss shots, but with your muscle memory practice of like 15+ years you bank one or two because that happened in practice too... Luck does not exist, it's a term that people made up just so they can have an excuse for some things or just so they don't need research the thoughts behind a certain situation which they can't really explain... http://www.clesportstalk.net/2014/05/lebrons-kids-will-attend-school-back-home/Battier retires, Birdman to test free agency, Bosh says "it's a relief that the season finally ended", Allen may retire, Wade can't sustain a 82 game season without 20+ DNP's, Chalmers sucks, LeBron apparently is packing his bags to Cleveland... This Miami team does not look and sound good especially what Bosh said right after the finals loss...Indy is in better shape than the Heat are by the looks of things and people want to leave Miami... |
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TheMindfulOne
| Subject: Re: NBA '13-14 Season Discussion Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:13 am | |
| Here's how bad it was: Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh combined to post a game score of 18.5 (7.9 and 10.6, respectively). In 2007, when LeBron and the Cavs were swept by the Spurs, Drew Gooden and Boobie Gibson combined for 17.5. This is not flattering company, obviously. If you expand to the teams' top seven non-LeBron rotational players, the '07 Cavs actually pull ahead, with a combined Game Score of 42.2 to the '14 Heat's 36.2. (The average cumulative game score average for the numbers 2 through 8 players in a Finals is 47, because generally, teams in the Finals are good. The Spurs 2 through 8 combined for 66.) Which is to say, LeBron had more help in the Finals in 2007 than he did this year.
LeBron's series average of 22.5 was more than twice as good as it was in 2007 (10.6), and higher than the average for the best player on a winning Finals team (20.6). Anyone watching could tell that the Heat were a one-man team, in a way completely at odds with how this team was supposed to work. |
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Jesus Swagglesworth
LeoVuittonDon
| Subject: Re: NBA '13-14 Season Discussion Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:04 am | |
| Well situations that you can't explain are called luck cause there's no explanation. Patrick mills making 9 straight 3s is unexplainable, considering he prob doesn't even do that in practice. Natural disasters are random luck irl. It's everywhere
I don't think anyone really gives 2 shits about the heat. Lebron will be fine & that's all that matters IMHO. We all saw this downfall coming when Wade decided to take half the year off. I even said Lebron can't do it alone like 6 months ago ffs |
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TheMindfulOne
| Subject: Re: NBA '13-14 Season Discussion Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:15 am | |
| Unexplainable?!
He doesn't even do? I'm sure that Patty can hit 9 threes in a row in practice, ffs I can do that to, I'm damn sure he can hit 15...You can explain everything with a little though in it and analyze it and become a greater individual, that's why I don't watch stuff like first take and any other bs, because people can't state their opinion without using the most dumbest term in human history = luck...
You said the Heat will win it all, stop saying that you were right all the time brah, you can be wrong, you're human, it's in your nature...
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Jesus Swagglesworth
LeoVuittonDon
| Subject: Re: NBA '13-14 Season Discussion Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:52 am | |
| lmao no, I was saying the ENTIRE year that the wiz were gonna whoop heat's ass cause lebrons alone... Which would've happened, until they got eliminated. After wiz lost I just said eh I guess Miami winning
My examples are exaggerations, don't take them to heart. The point is:
Lebron is the best player in the world and even he couldn't stop the onslaught of the random scrubs on that roster. That's luck. You telling me Lebron & ONE teammate couldn't match up with mills 15 3pt attempts? Does mills work harder than the best player in the world? Or is it just luck? Sometimes it happens sometimes it won't
Shit just doesn't go your way in life 100% of the time and it's not your fault (unless you brought it on yourself) and that's just the dumb luck of life |
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TheMindfulOne
| Subject: Re: NBA '13-14 Season Discussion Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:05 am | |
| Of course shit doesn't go your way because the world balances itself, other smart people work too, have a mind, it's based a lot on your decisions at the present time...
It couldn't match up because the Spurs have a system that works and a young group of guys who play smarter than Miami's old douches and fat bastards...
Mills gets an open shot whenever he wants because of: a) everybody cuts at the right time and in the right place
b) everybody is willing to make the extra pass
c) he plays in a system where there are no plays called, it's based on how you enter the offense and then somebody initiates it
If luck is building an offensive powerhouse system over 4-5 years then kill me right now...
Wiz couldn't beat the Pacers = they cannot beat Miami... |
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CRAX!!!
goldielox69
| Subject: Re: NBA '13-14 Season Discussion Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:26 am | |
| Spurs were better than LBJ, that's all. There was no luck involved, if there was heat had some too at some point, but got overwhelmed by spurs great play. Wiz couldn't have beaten either of those teams, not enough experience, ffs they shat their pants against shitty Pacers. |
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Jesus Swagglesworth
LeoVuittonDon
| Subject: Re: NBA '13-14 Season Discussion Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:51 pm | |
| ^ I didn't say spurs winning were lucky, I said spurs winning by that much is lucky
Look, you don't beat the best player in the world by 40 when he's playing that well. Had he played like Wade, sure it would make sense. Lbj is good enough to keep the game at a respectable score & he played well enough to do so & you know damn well know this.
If I told you Lebron avg'd 30+ pts with 10 Rebs and 60% shooting and said they lost 3 games by 30, you wouldn't believe it.. |
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CRAX!!!
goldielox69
| Subject: Re: NBA '13-14 Season Discussion Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:43 pm | |
| And I said Spurs won against LBJ, not Heat. This Spurs as a team blow out LBJ on his own almost every time imo. Anyway, this bs is over, let the rumours shit flood begin, last time I've checked LBJ is packing his bags and going to cleveland. |
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